01 - Motorcycle Drive By
02 - Horror Show
03 - Wounded
04 - Anything
05 - Never Let You Go
06 - Invisible
07 - Jumper
08 - Losing A Whole Year
09 - How's It Going to Be
10 - Eye Conqueror
11 - 1000 Julys
12 - Narcolepsy
13 - I Want You
14 - Semi-Charmed Life
15 - Graduate
16 - God of Wine
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Jen: Im all nervous
Stephan: How are you doing?
Jen: Im doing good.
Stephan: Its your yearly routine you get nervous.
Jen: yeah. You should ask Ruby I was hyperventilating on the way down here but anyway. So, I thought I was gonna have a second to prepare but lets hop right into it. I want to ask you about several of the things that seemed to not happen lately like the Rock Star Movie soundtrack and then American Pie 2. I know it was rumored that you guys were going to have a song on that.
Stephan: yeah, um well I guess its kind of the concept of were planning on making a really big album. Like really Were really pumped. We think were going to make the best album weve ever made. There was some advice given to us recently again from Bono, which is that the really big, sort of, appearances are marked by big silences, so were like, we need to lay low. We need to get off the radio, ya know? Theyre still wearing out Never Let You Go and still playing songs from the first record and Deep Inside of You. So doing these soundtracks they were really high-profile soundtracks were like you know, you never really go away. So weve been basically its a decision to hibernate. And then I went off and did Rock Star, doing the Breathe benefit and doing all this other stuff its getting all this attention which doesnt really quite fit the plan but you know? But most things dont really come out the way you plan. Isnt that true?
Ruby: What about the DVD?
Stephan: Which DVD?
Jen: The DVD of the live show, I think you talked about doing that.
Ruby: and the fan video
Stephan: were making a we got a lot of material from the last 2 tours, um the Red Summer Sun tour and Dragons and Astronauts and were gonna make a movie of the recording of this next record. And then thats gonna be onwhat wed like to do is an enhanced CD so that you could play the album and then put it in your DVD player because a lot of people have both. And you can watch how these records come together. How it comes together now because the way it comes together now is really cool. So um
Jen: Well lets talk about the new album then.
Jen: You said, I think you told us before you had about 40 songs that you were tinkering around with
Stephan: I was beginning to introduce them too.
Jen: Yeah we heard that "go down on her for an hour" or something like that.
Stephan: [recites lyrics] Shes fogging up the mirror with vapor around her body, soap glistens in the shower, and I just wanna be right here, go down on her for an hour, or maybe stay and let the day just fade away in a wild dedication let the moment of hope take hold and let it run and never look back at the damage weve done, but she catches me watching, covers herself with a towel, a little angry, and she only sees a voyeur.
Jen: Whats that song called?
Stephan: I think its going to be called "An Old Friend Coming Over" Its funny its like I just talk about real stuff ya know? People go down on each other, they really do.
Jen: For an hour, yeah.
Stephan: if youre lucky! If youre inspired! But yeah, Ive been writing a lot and um those guys havent even heard that stuff, I was just sort of
Jen: messin around
Stephan: yeah, because weve been building our studio so we havent played together, I just went and made a film, so Ive been gone for the last, almost 2 months.
Jen: Are there going to be any collaborations on the next album? I know you had been talking about doing some stuff with Fred Durst? Is he going to be on the new album?
Stephan: Hes going to be on the new album.
Jen: He is? For sure?
Jen: What do you think about that? Do you think that the Durst/Limp Bizkit fans and the Third Eye Blind fans mix?
Stephan: No, I dont think they mix, I just think its music, you know? I think that that you know its funny I really want to kind of reinvent ourselves, like, I really want to make good radical [inaudible] and I think Fred does too. And so, were not really saying, you know that were making some blending of Limp Bizkit and Third Eye Blind as its known. Fred and I just wrote a song together. I think its one of the best songs that either one of us has ever written.
Jen: and its not like either, its a whole new kind of
Stephan: its just kind of this dark heavy rock song. Its called Misfits. I was talking about that, thats kind of what I do, I make music for misfits.
Jen: Right yeah youve said that several times. So Fred Durst, anybody else?
Stephan: Some thoughts but not really, its not really going to be an album of collaborations. Its gonna be about what we do Id like to work with one of the guys from the Skratch Piklz. Theres a song called Good Man.
[sings] And all that she wanted was a good man.
I want to have them like making a rhythm, like, I want to take what you do, I wanna play it and make it into vinyl and hes going to scratch it in this very weird sort of haunting way.
Jen: So is he a local DJ?
Stephan: Yeah the Skratch Piklz, like theyre a band of DJs and theyre certainly the best DJs in the world. And theyre from the Bay Area.
Ruby: Theyre from Daly City.
Stephan: Yeah Daly City. I mean what they do is, its like scratching on a symphonic level.
Jen: Well, speaking about the collaborations, the Breathe benefit, how did that come about? What made you decide that you wanted to put something together like that and how did you choose the bands that are going to be playing?
Stephan: Well I wanted to do something for my Mother and I wanted to do something lasting. And its really really important for me, for my own sense of I think Ive given a lot of thought over the last 7 or 8 months about what is really important to me and um it comes down to this really simple statement which is that I want to enjoy this life that weve been given. And being a misfit myself, I think I always put a lot of obstacles in the way of that and um I think Ive really been trying to address that. And one of the tenets of that is that I want to share it with other people. And one way that that happens is to use philanthropy and you know I always noticed this makes me feel good. You know? I enjoy it, I like it. So putting Breathe together as a yearly concert is a something that I do because making that contribution makes me feel really good.
Jen: So its going to be an annual thing?
Stephan: Very selfish
Jen: No its not at all actually
Stephan: um yeah its going to be an annual concert, thats the idea, to do it every year.
Jen: Every October?
Stephan: Yeah, pretty much. It seems like a good time of year to do a show. I was just blown away by the uh we were just gonna put on a showwe were just gonna go play the Greek in LA and have like a charity concert and then everybody got involved.
Jen: Oh yeah, everyone of course its tragic what happened to Aaliyah.
Bobby: Im sorry to interrupt.
Jen: No problem.
Bobby: I just need you to look, I added it in, Narcolepsy wasnt even on here so.. Narcolepsy was 9, but also Hows it Going to Be was 9. Want me to just add another song in? [knocks tape recorder over] Im sorry. This is what I printed that you re-typed.
Stephan: Wait, which is which here, Bobby?
Bobby: Whats that buddy?
Stephan: Which is which?
Bobby: This is what you typed, this is what I typed.
Stephan: Oh. Have you left anything out from here?
Bobby: Nope, I printed just as it was in the computer.
Stephan: I dont know if were actually going to be able to play Invisible.
Stephan: Hey Arion! Arion! We cant play Invisible, right? Its not there yet.
Arion: Well its better than some of the other shit we played. I dont know about that end part, Ill just try to remember it.
Jen: Oh please! Please! If its new, please!
Stephan: Alright ok
Arion: I say, I say YES, I'd play it.
Stephan: Hey Bobby
Stephan: put it in after 1000 Julys.
Bobby: what? Invisible?
Stephan: no no no uhh Narcolepsy.
Bobby: And just add another song so well do 17 songs?
Stephan: Why add another song?
Bobby: Well thats... cuz Narcolepsy is not on this list, thats finethats what was on this list for some time.
Stephan: Yeah yeah yeah.
Bobby: Ok. Cool.
Stephan: Were not going to do Deep Inside of You
Bobby: Ok, yeah I dont have that on here. So Ill just add Narcolepsy. Gotcha. Umm weve got meet n greet starting---
Stephan: [in British accent]---NO were not doing fuin' Stone 'Enge! [quote from Spinal Tap movie]
Bobby: --so Ill fix this, we might have to take a break, Ill get everyone assembled, well come back, well get you finished.
Jen: Ok, thank you.
Stephan: Alright and were back.
Jen: Youre skinny.
Stephan: Im beyoked! [note: I think he said "beyoked" I don't really know. lol]
Jen: Youre what?
Stephan: I put on an inch in my arms
Jen: --have you been working out?
Stephan: --and an inch on my chest. Its bigger.
Jen: No, but your face is thinner.
Stephan: Yeah I stopped eating all that shit.
Jen: And we saw pictures from the Rock Star premiere and you looked very uh very nice your body right now.
Stephan: well thank you. I just did this movie where theres like 3 sex scenes. Im like naked in this movie constantly and it totally makes you work out. You have to have abs, you just do.
Jen: Yeah we loved we went and saw Rock Star the other day.
Stephan: Did you have a good time?
Jen: yeah we did. We loved it.
Stephan: Did you think I was funny?
Jen: yeah the wig. We cheered when the opening credits came on, your name flashed up.
Stephan: Lot of people didnt recognize me in that movie, I was very glad. I was really like, right on, you didnt know it was me. Cuz thats NOT me, you know. Thats something people should know. I dont act like that
Jen: oh you still had your voice, same accent and everything
Stephan: Well youve got your voice, your voice is your voice unless its like you know [inaudible "use it"?] Yoko Ono
Jen: You call people "cocksmokers"
Stephan: No I mean, I just dont have that mentality. It was fun, I really enjoyed it. So where were we?
Jen: I think that Bobby was going to steal you away.
Stephan: Well hell steal me when he steals me.
Jen: So lets talk about your movie. Its called Angelic Tuesday, right?
Jen: And you have a lot of naked scenes.
Jen: Whats it about? Like just general synopsis. Is it a drama? Is it a comedy? Is it a porno?
Stephan: Its a story about this guy whos ano its really sort of a classic kind of, its really a great sort of Hollywood script. Its a very small independent film and I did it because I had the window of time and it was the lead in the film and so it was this opportunity where Im carrying the film to find out, you know I mean to have that to see what that was like. You know, and sort of to test the assertion of being an actor, I guess.
Ruby: Did you audition for it?
Stephan: Did I audition for it? Yeah I read for it. Go in and get the gig ya know, thats part of acting. In rock, I get to do pretty much what I want and this is like, you know a film. Coming from music almost works against you and you have to kind of convince people. But making movies for me is a hobby really. Its like what I really enjoy doing in my spare time. And you know some people like to jet-ski and some people like to collect vinyl Japanese toys and I like to make movies. So now Im getting my chance to do that and uh its kinda getting handed to me and Im glad.
Jen: Do you have any other movies that youre going to be
Stephan: No, I really want to work on
Bobby: --I need ya bro
Stephan: Okay. I really want to just work on Third Eye Blind and make this album between now and February and really not do anything else. Just really be into that. I think thats enough. I think that Ive in a lot of ways, added more onto myself a lot times than I can do. In some ways, thats been very disruptive and I think theres nothing more valuable and rewarding for me than making this album. I dont think [Bobby] really needs me.
Jen: So you dont think your acting career will hurt the band? Or youre hoping it wont.
Stephan: Well uh hurt it in what way?itll hurt it if I suck
Jen: Hurt it in, pushing back the recording.
Stephan: Yeah, to do what?
Bobby: Meet n greet. Right now.
Stephan: Yeah just get those guys [points to Tony, Arion, Brad] Get them to come to the table.
Bobby: theyre all here
Stephan: Good, Im here too.
Bobby: Look Arions coming over
Stephan: alright. Lets pause this for a second.
[Stephan gets up to do meet n greet, but returns to us almost immediately]
Jen: Rubys dying to know this. What do you think of Alana Davis cover of I Want You?
Jen: Do you like it? Are you happy with what she did with the song?
Stephan: uhh ya know, I mean Im flattered to be covered, I think thats really great. That was a song that never, a lot of people didnt get to hear and if she wants to go take it and, you know, have people hear it thats fine.
Ruby: Did you have any input in it?
Stephan: She changed the lyrno I didnt have any input. I heard it when it was done. I heard it on the radio.
Jen: I love it.
Stephan: She changed theshe changed the lyrics. Thats cool she made it her own
Bobby: Your fans are waiting, bro.
Stephan: Ok Ill be right back.
[Stephan returns after a 10 or 15 minute meet n greet and we have him sign 3eb swag for giveaways, including many copies of Stephans cover of San Francisco Magazine. Stephan expresses his contempt about his pictures and the writing in this issue.]
Stephan: I hate this.
Jen: I know, you said.
Stephan: It's vile.
Jen: No its not! I really like those pictures. I think theyre good, I think theyre very artistic.
Stephan: I think it like borders on malice.
Jen: Did they approach you about that? Did they want you to do the cover?
Stephan: Yeah, but its like
Jen: No comment?
Ruby: You think they purposely took the worst pictures, in your opinion?
Stephan: Its not even that, I dont really care. I dont think that I need to be "glamour boy", I dont think thats what holds Third Eye Blinds music together. But um it is kind of bizarre to me.
Jen: Well it sold 8 copies to us. We actually have those as giveaways.
Stephan: Everything I said in there, the quotations are accurate. But its like I dont know to pit us against how do I put this Third Eye Blind has paid every single due there is to pay. We played the Mabuhay individually, Ive slept on every single floor, Ive tried so many ways to get bands together, all for the purpose of living my life on my own terms, which is the DIY ethos. Thats what weve lived from the beginning. Our manager is my best friend, he wasnt some big industry guy. He is now, but thats because he made himself that, from working with us and because were a loyal group of people and we stick together. We do things ourselves. I produce our records, we dont have outside bigwig producers. We built our studio in San Francisco, were totally dedicated to San Francisco in its best sense. And um its like, because I speak my mind or something, its easy to be fucked with. Theres some sense of pit us against some I dont know its just annoying, its just annoying I believe in things being precious, and you know, I dont like them getting all blown up. Most of our albums are not, most of our albums you dont, most of our albums are of songs that are very hidden and you know not all part of the public consciousness, you know? But its like, we havent been anointed to look at that, which is really annoying. No one ever goes yknow what? they also play better. Theyre also better musicians thats just like not said, you know? Well, whatever, it doesnt matter. We do what we do.
Jen: You dont pay people to get you on TRL and things like that.
Stephan: No, no no in a sense, I dont think well ever really be a media-appointed band. But I do think that the more, sort of, the subculture of the band will grow in the next album. I think thatll happen a lot. The last album is very very hard to make. It was made in 6 months, the band was basically breaking up and um we werent working together. It was very divisive, it was just very hard to make that record. We still did things on there that Im proud of, but it was flawed. Now we really have such a better sense of ourselves.
Jen: More synergy?
Stephan: Much more synergistic. Much more theres just a lot more joy.
Jen: Well, speaking of joy, we read recently on MTV.com that you were depressed for the majority of last year, that you said you were experiencing depression. Is that true?
Stephan: I wouldnt say that was depression, in the sense that, like, not waking up in the morning or any of that kind of stuff.
Jen: taking meds?
Stephan: No meds. I wasnt thats not accurate.
Jen: Because I know that a lot of people when they read that they were like YES because they feel that the best Third Eye Blind lyrics come from a state of depression rather than a state of joy.
Stephan: Yeah Id like that to change. But um
Jen: They were like Yes hes depressed that means more good stuff coming out of him!
Stephan: Youre gonna make me a good record. I was really yeah it was hard, it was hard.
Jen: Lot of personal stuff?
Stephan: Lot of personal stuff. Lot of really heavy personal stuff. But, I wasnt depressed because I was really committed to confronting it and dealing with it and really looking at, really re-evaluating what I really want. And I feel like Ive come through that, like I know what I want, I know how to get it, and Im gonna do it.
Jen: Now its just the strategy of how you gonna get there.
Stephan: Im getting there. Yeah so so who was being depressed, I guess it was kind of I never said woe is me. Sometimes you gotta really like check yourself. I think that, you know even in the 3 years before Third Eye Blind was signed, I never slowedI never looked up, you know. I made the record, and then I went off and made the Braids and then we went on tour, came off, immediately made another album, we made videos, we went on tour, we just kept going and it never stopped for years. There were things really deep down that were bothering me and I think that I used the seduction of the life I was living as a way of kind of avoiding it.
Jen: Putting off dealing with the problems?
Stephan: Yeah. Putting off dealing with stuff. Thats not good so, I think now, I smile a lot more easily. Like I see photos of myself now, I see photos with fans when it was like hard for me to smile. To the point where I was just like "you know I dont think I want my picture taken. I just dont want to do it." I just dont feel that way, I feel much more connected to people, I feel much more sort of easy inside. And um much more giving and giving to share.
Jen: Yeah, I would say this interview is an example of that.
Stephan: You've always got any interview.
Jen: Well since were talking about writing, a fan wanted to know do you ever get writers block when you write lyrics for the band?
Jen: And how do you get past it? Do you just walk away from it and just wait til the inspiration comes back?
Jen: just, divine inspiration?
Stephan: Yeah I dont beat myself up about it. It just, it kind of, um you keep coming back to it and mess around and think and feel and
Jen: And I know you said a lot of times that the feeling you get from maybe music, someone playing around on the guitar and you hear things...
Jen: that inspires words...
Stephan: Yeah, I just play chords in different voices and find things and you know, and then writing with Arion, hell play something in a different way and that will give me a prompt. So it goes like that.
Jen: If you wrote an autobiography about yourself, which, we expect one day..
Stephan: [shudders out loud]
Jen: because we know you love to write. What would be its title?
Stephan: um pshhh
[long pause...thinking hard about this one...] [laughs]
Stephan: "How I Got to be a Star Crossed Pimp"
Jen: ok, Mr. Pimp. Heres our winning question, we held a contest. All of these questions here were submitted by fans, I cant even tell you how many thousands of questions we went through
Stephan: [to Ruby] Do you still do your thing?
Stephan: do you?
Jen: Ask Wooby?
Ruby: I havent in a while.
Stephan: I love that thing.
Jen: Kick her ass
Stephan: Its so fucking funny.
Jen: make her do it! Do it!
Stephan: Its so rightits so right on point, you know. Its like, its just great.
Jen: She likes to beat you up. But um, star crossed pimp, the winning question here is this fan, she says you have the looks and probably the potential to be a porn star, so if you were ever to do a porno, what would your porn star name be?"
Jen: And thats the winning question. Of course it has to be about sex.
Stephan: What would be my porn name?
Jen: Questions that you would never get asked by Rolling Stone!
Stephan: [long pause]
I dont know. I think youre going to have to give me one.
Ruby: Theres always thatyknow your middle name
Stephan: --I never watch porn. I dont watch much porn.
Stephan: I really dont. Its like
Stephan: I dont watch much porn!! Like spank-trovision and that kind of stuff. I dont know, its like
Jen: You had to at some point in your life.
Ruby: What about that stuff on like HBO and Showtime, the soft stuff.
Stephan: oh soft is terrible! Its so frustrating! I have this lighting guy that goes Man, last night, I was trying to wank and, like, they wouldnt show me the money shot. I threw my fucking shoe at the TV! I said, What are you doing wearing shoes and beating off? Like thats weird. I dont think you can have sex, even with yourself, with your shoes on, I just think thats WRONG. You know?
Jen: We have a fan that wants you to do Stephans Porno of the Month, like the book club, the book of the month.
Stephan: Theres this one guy, he does, its like this uh Dalia whats her name? Dalia-somebody-or-another, and he does this exhibitionist stuff. But its like its never like I dont know porns like Id like to MAKE a porn film. Because its never like, its never really dirty. Its raunchy but its not like, its not really like dirty. Like wrong. Like ooo thats so dirty. You know what I mean? So rarely, you watch movies and you see someone you know like, of course she looks like that, of course he looks like that, of course theyre gonna fuck.
Ruby: Well theres also lots of porn on the internet.
Stephan. Yeah. I dont know its like um I would say create your own. Lets just put it this way [smiles] I dont really need to watch porn. If you catch the drift. Its a perk.
Jen: So if you dont have a porn star name, do you have a name you prefer to be called, then? Like, Big Daddy?
Stephan: I think Daddy is definitely like you know, a lot of girls dont understand this. It doesnt mean its your dad, its DADDY. I definitely think the sexiest thing to be called is "Daddy".
Jen: haha "I like it when you call me big daddy!"
Ruby: Big Poppa
Stephan: Girls who wont call you Daddy get offended when you say "cunt". You know? Which is just like, I think it just totally misses the point, which is like, were going to get together and were going to do some wrong things.
Jen: Do you have a favorite album that you like to groove to in the bedroom?
Stephan: yeah theres these weird chants, its like this freaky, almost like medieval church music.
Jen and Ruby: [laugh snort snicker]
Stephan: Its pretty damn blasphemous. [laughs]
Jen: OH NO
Stephan: yeah that ones working
Jen: top or bottom?
Jen: Im embarassing Ruby here.
Ruby: No youre not.
Stephan: Its a good question, though. Some people are flexible though.
Jen: Do you have a sex toy collection?
Jen: You do?
Stephan: I do.
Jen: french ticklers? What?
Stephan: Its all there.
Ruby: moving along
Jen: yeah, moving along
Stephan: I think everyone should have one
Jen: oh absolutely
Stephan: you know? If you dont have some stuff that makes a good hard flacking-slapping sound, then your collection is incomplete, because sometimes people need some ironclad discipline.
Jen: So whats the funkiest thing Third Eye Blind asked to have on hand backstage at all your shows?
Stephan: funkiest thing?
Jen: uh huh. you know what I mean? Some rock stars want specific things that they need backstage.
Ruby: like only blue M&Ms
Stephan: yeah, to some extent I feel like thats sort of fucking with people. Its like [looks beyond] theres a big group of people over there and I really dont want them to come over here. I definitely want my space respected, but at the same time I dont want to be imperious-- theres kind of a badass Weve always got Belvedere Vodka. Theres always a lot of celery, carrots, that kind of shit. Sometimes I eat the celery, I dont eat the carrots much anymore.
Jen: But nothing funky though? Like sex toys?
Stephan: No. Let me think. Its so hard to stay healthy on the road, like when were on tour, its more sort of healthy kinds of stuff and when its like a longer tour, then we want kind of have an environment made up so theres like, a sofa that comes with us and we have like, chairs and the room gets sort of made up in a certain way and lights. And Arion needs music around him all the time. Like I need a lot of quiet, he has to have music all the time. So hes always got a system there with various kinds of music. And what he does is he obsesses on it. So hell play the same thing really loud over and over again and then move on, hes just like that, hell just wear it out. So thats really important to him.
Jen: This is gonna be a hard question probably
Stephan: --just because we dont have sex toys backstage, Jen, does not mean, that does not mean that it is not, on occasion, debauched.
Jen: Im slightly disappointed, I have to admit.
Stephan: really? You didnt think to bring a dildo with you?
Jen: Keep the ladies occupied while theyre waiting.
Stephan: The girls, theyll do their own thing. If theyre willing to get back there, they want to, like, bring the show.
Jen: Maybe theyll bring their own, who knows? BYOD.
Jen: Whats the biggest misconception about Stephan Jenkins?
Stephan: [pause] biggest misc
Jen: youve had some negative press
Stephan: biggest misconception?
Jen: mm-hm as far as publicly. The fans would know...
Stephan: Mostly I would think its arrogance. I think in the media Ive been perceived as that way and its such an easy tag.
Jen: the cocky guy?
Stephan: yeah its that whole kind of thing. I think people who know me tend to think that I have a lot more empathy than somebody who would be characterized as being arrogant.
Jen: Does it bother you to have tha
Stephan: Also I think theres something thats almost flippant, and its like I really care very deeply about music and what it does.
Bobby: 10 minutes to show
Stephan: really? God, we havent played in so long.
Jen: Im really excited.
Stephan: Oh my God, its going to be ooh..who knows Im really in a state right now where I really want to reinvent ourselves. I love the music weve made, I stand by it, but Im so all about the next phase.
Jen: A new challenge
Stephan: Just, where its going to go. I really feel like were a band that hasnt arrived yet.
Jen: Well a lot of times in the real world, when you have the same job for a number of years sometimes you crave just a change of scenery, a new company maybe or a totally new profession maybe.
Stephan: I dont crave that. Im doing exactly what I want to do with my life.
Jen: Right, but I mean within your profession, though, its just like youre changing jobs. Youre changing maybe the style of the next record. Is that
Jen: --kind of what youre saying
Stephan: very much so, very much so. And Ive had such radically different experiences the past couple of years. And thats what Im really writing about.
Jen: If you werent playing music right now, what do you think you would be doing as an alternative career?
Stephan: Making films.
Jen: Right, film school guy.
Stephan: Id be acting in movies and Id be
Jen: so you would definitely be in entertainment?
Stephan: Yeah I like storytelling, I like narrative storytelling and being involved in that in some kind of way
Jen: Do you do that? (note: I thought he was saying he wanted to be a storyteller - like read for people - oops)
Stephan: Narrative storytelling?
Jen: uh huh
Stephan: I think thats what my songs are.
Jen: Well I know that, but I mean, literally?
Stephan: Write stories? I write a lot.
Jen: Do you ever share any of that, or is it something that you keep just for yourself as like a journal?
Stephan: I think at some point I might want to try and publish some of that stuff. Its just what I write. Ive written a story that might turn into something, that might turn into a novel or a script or something. But, probably if I wasnt in Third Eye Blind, what Id be trying to do is trying to get music together. Id be one of those actors who really really wants to do is be in a band. You know? Which is, so pathetic. Thats why I just see doing films as something that I do on the side, and I do it because its really fun, I enjoy it. Im happy where Im at and what Ive done, Ive made enough bread, Im famous enough and all of those kinds of things, all of those kind of surface things are not what Im looking to. Thats not what Im looking to feed, its really about, to be able to do it. The process.
Jen: What do you personally want to be remembered for? Do you want to be remembered for your fame or do you want to be remembered that you raised X amount of dollars for breast cancer? What would you like to be remembered for? Say if you were Aaliyah and you died on a plane, what would you want people to remember you for? They talk about her: shes the nicest girl, really had her shit together, really young, very intelligent
[Announcer comes on stage to announce the show. Crowd cheers]
Stephan: On a personal level I think that I love some people really deeply. My family, the people who are close to me, people who have become my family. Somebody who reached people with music and made that small but sincere reach-out to them. [pause] But you know, one time a plane was going down and all I thought wow that was weird. The one thing I said, Existence - that was very strange. How weird. You know?
[Jen and Ruby blink in confusion]
Stephan: but I I dont know so now whenever a plane takes off, I pray, every single time. I started praying and now Im like really sort of and that sort of carried over. I think I have this really sort of, I think Ive had this very strange relationship with God. Sort of refused to acknowledge God and had to invent God for myself, because you know, major religions really dont work for me.
[loud cheers from audience in the background]
Ruby: A lot of people have to do that.
Ruby: A lot of people have to do
Stephan: --I just think theyre horribly flawed. Christianity is based on judgment and laws and thats not how I work with people. Would you take the good with the bad - I don't know how you do that. It's not important to me at all that Mary was a virgin. You know, I REALLY don't care. But uh, the sense of the sense of Providence in that the the Divine power that guides our destiny has become kind of a contract with me. Like if youre willing to get in there, you know, and I think embracing some sense of universal good and those are the kinds of things that Ive resisted and lately in a way, embraced more.
[guitar tech gestures to Stephan]
Stephan: [to guitar tech] uhhh its the standard distorted
Jen: So I guess were gonna have a contest to have the fans to give you a porn star name, then.
Stephan: Well lets take it from Monty Python: Biggus Dickus. Biggus? Dickus?
Jen: Are you guys leaving right after the show?
Jen: going home?
Ruby: oh dont forget to sign these, we wanted to give these away.
Jen: please, theyre giveaways for the fundraiser.
Ruby: and this is for the breast cancer...
Jen: did you see this? The little candle.
Stephan: oh thats nice.
[fan stops by for an autograph]
Stephan: there you are. And this? Do you want this left in the plastic?
Fan: Um you can take it out if you want.
Stephan: well if you want to keep it in the plastic thats cool but then you wont get his. Ill just do it this way. But you cant take it out of the plastic.
Fan: alright thanks
Stephan: youre welcome
Jen: I guess Ill ask you a couple questions while youre signing that stuff.
Jen: Yikes yikes yikes! Umm do you know any other languages besides English?
Stephan: uh.. yeah uh, French?
Jen: uh-huh. Just French? You speak it pretty fluently?
Jen: Now, the Stendhal book the Scarlet and Red [actually, Scarlet and Black], did you read it in English or French?
Stephan: No no, I read it in English. Right now Im reading Life in the Year 1000. Its so rad. Yeah its just hilarious.
Bobby: [gestures to Stephan]
Stephan: [to Bobby] Dude, all I gotta do is put on something I can sweat in and Im good.
Bobby: okay, [comes with menu] do you wanna pick something for afterwards? Do you want me to just pick it for you? Its Dennys, you want like a Boca burger?
Bobby: Come on dude, look where we are.
Jen: All American Slam.
Bobby: Want breakfast?
Stephan: What did Arion order?
Bobby: a Boca Burger.
Stephan: yeah Boca Burger. What is that? Its like a tofu burger or something?
Bobby: yeah its tofu and grain - its pretty good actually.
Stephan: Can I get a salad, cuz I dont want to eat the bread.
Bobby: Ill just get a side salad
Stephan: the dressing on the side, I dont want to have .
Bobby: yep you got it.
Jen: One more, sign the tag.
Stephan: Just sign the tag?
Jen: We think itll wipe off anywhere else.
Athena: Excuse me, are you Stephan?
Athena: I wanted to meet you. Im sorry if Im interrupting
Stephan: how do you do? whats your name?
Athena: Im Athena, Im from Star 101 we interviewed you on the air a couple days ago.
Stephan: uh huh. oh cool, was it alright? Cuz I was sound asleep.
Athena: No no you were fine. It sounded like you were a little tired but thats cool.
Stephan: uh, my assistant came into my room, went [knocks on table] and handed me the phone. I was sound asleep. She said make you wake-up voice, I went AAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
Athena: I met you at the Grammys like 5 years ago when I worked at a radio station in New York. [Were 3eb around 5 years ago? I dont remember them ever going to the Grammys then ]
Stephan: um and how have you been?
Athena: and and you had more energy, I think it was like
Stephan: Im sorry I didnt mean to bore you guys.
Athena: No thats all right.
Stephan: I did the best I could.
Athena: No you were fine, you were cool. Are you um are you taking pictures at all?
Stephan: um not right now, love.
Athena: youre not?
Stephan: Thank you, though.
Athena: all right, I just wanted to say hi, sorry to interrupt you guys.
Stephan: Ok, it was really nice to meet you.
Jen: All right, I guess um why did you change the spelling of your name ?
Stephan: I didnt.
Jen: from e-n to a-n.
Stephan: I didnt change it.
Jen: a-n is on your birth certificate?
Jen: ok. That answers that. How is The Boo?
Stephan: shes EXcellent!
Jen: is she living with you?
Stephan: yesterday yeah I got this new place, its like its so funny its like Ive lived SO LONG at this level of just, totally punk rock. You know? And at a certain point, what are youwhy? So
Jen: I think it was The Chronicle that said you were living in Upper Fillmore?
Stephan: I live in Pacific Heights, I have this phat pad with a view of the Golden Gate Bridge and Ive been collecting design and furniture and stuff. Yesterdaythis is all relatedyesterday the Mighty Boo Pup had a gigantic breakthrough because I decided to let her get on the couch, which is where she wants to be. She wants to be comfortable. Its very important for her to be comfortable. So now she gets to go on the couch and shes extremely pleased.
Ruby: You know how theres all that stuff on the news, like, with like Sean Jones and that other woman who were mauled by the pit bulls?
Ruby: Is thathow do you feel walking down the street with Boo and people kind of, you know, step back and go woah thats a pit bull.
Stephan: I mean, so is the dog in Our Gang, ya know? Shes uh she will not attack you unless I say to. She wont do it.
Ruby: So do you think pit bulls have a bad rap?
Stephan: Am-Staff terriers are my favorite breed of dog, period. They are just the best dogs.
Jen: Does Boo have any friends?
Stephan: oh yeah she loves dogs.
Jen: I mean, do you have any little brothers or sisters for her?
Stephan: uh no, but um Jason Carmer who is my production partner in the studio, hes got a pound dog pit bull and they love each other, they just run around the studio all day. Were building this studio, its like so
Jen: Its in SoMa?
Stephan: yeah yeah
Jen: Isnt that kind of expensive?
Stephan: Not anymore!! Not anymore!! We cleaned up after those dot.commers.
Jen: yeah, my office used to be right next to the Utah
Stephan: yeah its been a fire sale so we got the place pretty cheap and its just its like a dream come true.
Jen: When is it gonna be done?
Stephan: uhh it should have been done [checks watch] 2 days ago, but itll probably be done by the end of the month. Its bad-ass.
Jen: And youll be able to do everything up to the final finish?
Jen: and so are you going to record everything in there?
Stephan: Well we might go back to Skywalker Ranch because I think that the really the best drum sounds my favorite drums sound, period is the drums on God of Wine and that was recorded at Skywalker Ranch and I just dont see how that can be improved on. I just, just I love that sound, its really natural and real and has lots of air. So we might go back there to do some drums, but other than that well do it all there. Thats the plan.
Ruby: Have you named the studio yet?
Stephan: No. That would be a good contest, we need a name.
Jen: Tell him.
Ruby: You told him already right? I was thinking of like the Chocolate Factory or the Fudge Factory.
Ruby: You know that quote from Willy Wonka?
Stephan: I know em all.
Ruby: "We are the we are the music makers "
Stephan: Yeah Ive been getting into the Princess Bride lately.
Ruby: "My name is Inigo Montoya you killed my father "
Stephan: "prepare to die"
Ruby: "prepare to die"
Stephan: I am really like feelin the Princess Bride. "If it is, wed all be dead"
Jen: So you dont know what youre gonna name it yet?
Stephan: "Anybody want a peanut?" "No more rhymes! And I mean it!"
Um no I dont know what were gonna call it. We came up with all these names for studios and we just constantly shoot em down. But its not really
Jen: Well one person is going to have to do it because youre never going to get everybody to agree on it.
Stephan: I know, I know. But its like, you know why ram something down everybodys throat. We gotta we just
Bobby: Hes gotta get you eared up.
Stephan: okay, um gotta go! um, if you guys wanna , if you wanna stand on the side of the stage you can tonight. [to Ruby] What are you gonna do?
Jen: That would be great.
Stephan: What are you gonna do? Are you gonna start writing your thing again?
Jen: she is!
Stephan: I love that thing. Its so fucking funny. Do you get a lot of questions?
Jen: oh my god
Ruby: yeah, Ive like half-written it and then I just havent touched it, I have severe writers block.
Ruby: I dont know how to deal with it. So, I mean, I go back to it every, like, week or so and then I just say "ffff.. to hell with it" and then I go back to it a week later and I try to getnothings coming eventually
Stephan: Can I give you some suggestions?
Stephan: That first thing that comes into your mind no matter how bad it is, just do it, vent. "You bastard!" You know just like immediately, like I think people get the joke.
Jen: oh absolutely
Stephan: you know? But its like they line up for some abuse from you. Like, you know I think what you should do is like
Jen: hes giving you the green light Wooby!
Stephan: --take Wooby and like re-dress her and dress her up as a dominatrix. And just say like "Woobys back! And now Im not fucking around!" Its like, no more Mr. Nice Guy, ya know? Its just like "step up and get your punishment".
Ruby: Ill have to get a whip.
Jen: well redo your picture
Stephan: Where did you see me at the Rock Star premiere?
Jen: photos online
Stephan: just online photos?
Jen: yeah they were taken by Yahoo.
Ruby: you were with Fred Durst.
Jen: yeah you were with Fred.
Stephan: hes my pal. Such a sweet guy. Really smart, really nice guy, very sincere.
Jen: Very short.
Stephan: Well Im very tall.
Jen: [laughs] Im sorry thats the first thing that came to my mind.
Stephan: Were there a lot of photos?
Jen: No, there were 3. Theyre good, theyre on the site, right on the front page.
Stephan: saw my blue suit?
Jen: yeah, is that velour?
Stephan: its velvet. Blue velvet suit.
[Bobby approaches again]
Jen: I dont want to get in trouble.
Stephan: With what?
Jen: He was so nice to let us do this. So I dont want to get in trouble.
Stephan: Nice to see you guys.
Jen: Nice to see you too.
Stephan: Yeah The Year 1000, you gotta read that book so fucking funny. Have you read Black Hawk Down?
Stephan: Thats a trippy book. Thats a really weird book.
Jen: Ive been buying all the books you recommend. I think a lot of people have.
Stephan: I read a lot of books.
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